Ivoclar newest move to drop 3Shape

Discussion in 'Business Discussions' started by DMC, Jan 9, 2018.

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Ivoclar change to ?? CAD Software and scanner?

  1. exocad

    66.7%
  2. something new?

    11.1%
  3. 4Shape?

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Medit?

    11.1%
  5. DOF?

    11.1%
  6. Shining3d?

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Italian Open Technologies?

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. iMetric?

    11.1%
  9. secret Ivoclar scanner soon to be announced?

    33.3%
  10. nothing?

    11.1%
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  1. DMC

    DMC Scott Hudson

    And.....now what? :confused:

    They need a scanner to sell and some CAD software.

    Impossible to survive without.
     
  2. DMC

    DMC Scott Hudson

    I also knew that buying diadem would be a waste of time.
    Mega waste of $10 million or more.
    Nobody sent them thousands of eMax to machine.
    That place was a black hole that sucked money every second it existed.

    Core3d bought that?
    WOW, because I did not know they even filled their current manufacturing centers!
    Must have been for a cheap price?
    I think they had 10 Roeders mills at about $900k each? And a pile more of ?? others?
     
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  3. DMC

    DMC Scott Hudson

    https://www.dentalcompare.com/News/...l-Milling-Center-Diadem-Precision-Technology/

    Nov 2012....

    ..."Ivoclar Vivadent Acquires Diadem Precision Technology

    Ivoclar Vivadent today announced the acquisition of Diadem Precision Technology. The transaction is expected to be completed by December 31, 2012.

    Located in Troy, Mich., and Windsor, Ontario, Diadem Precision Technology is a state-of-the-art, high efficiency, high quality, digital-based production facility focusing on all-ceramic CAD/CAM solutions serving the dental laboratory industry. With facilities in the US and Canada, the company currently employs 25 people.

    Diadem Precision Technology started business in 2008 as a digital-based milling center. Since its inception, the company has consistently grown under the leadership of Mr. Mike Girard who will pursue a new opportunity within the laboratory industry."

    I meet Mike Gerard in 2007 on a river boat. We drink and eat together. Smart guy!
    He was thinking at that time of eMax bonded or baked-to-Zr! Top and bottom.
    Spent money and time to build Diadem, then sold to Ivoclar.
    He was certain that was going to be the next thing.
    3M tried their own approach with stupid D.V.S. veneering system.
    I tried that Once. As we all know, both failed.

    I am pretty sure Mike G. was responsible for the procerra product. ?
    Something like that. He was correct that product worked for a while and made money.
     
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  4. DMC

    DMC Scott Hudson

    and now a few years later.....SOLD! :wacky:

    What will happen with Sagemax?

    Ivoclar fork that up too I think.

    Another waste of money.
     
  5. cadfan

    cadfan Moderator Staff Member

    a scanner can be build from every idiot so software they got a major package from exo ?? or new versus modified.
    millcenter old stupid solution new in house complete simple solution money comes with materials and sold mills,scanners software , support
     
  6. DMC

    DMC Scott Hudson

    You mean new software that nobody knows about?
    Not exocad??

    The easy solution is to just work with exocad.
    Why try to compete?
    Those German kids really made a decent software and the company has great thoughts and overall mission.
    Whoops-ass on 3Shape in my opinion.
    Really clean software!

    This is 3Shape recently!

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  7. cadfan

    cadfan Moderator Staff Member

    maybe modified nobel or bought a package from exo shareholders a few others too but they all have no complete solution.
     
  8. DMC

    DMC Scott Hudson

    They would not be so stupid to work with Dental Wings? right?

    Have you ever tried Dental Wings John?

    It is really bad. I would not use it for free.

    Makes me want to scream and punch my PC.
     
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  9. cadfan

    cadfan Moderator Staff Member

    yes i have maybe not as stupid as delcam but near by and i dont think straumann and ivo are closed friends
    Maybe modified eggs software cooperation with the Japanese owners of Heraus Kulzer for the world market.
     
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  10. Toothman19

    Toothman19 Well-Known Member

    a birdie told me they are looking into E4D/Planmeca
     
  11. 2thm8kr

    2thm8kr ɹotɐɹʇsıuıɯqA Staff Member

    Ivoclar helped develop the E4D mill they also owned a portion of the company when they first started.
    Not sure if that is still the case as things have changed in Dallas over the years.
     
  12. Mr 3d

    Mr 3d Sheriff Staff Member

    3M was an original investor for that thing as well.
    Like 20 years ago!
     
  13. 2thm8kr

    2thm8kr ɹotɐɹʇsıuıɯqA Staff Member

    Yes, along with some other companies like tool manufacturers, etc.
     
  14. DMC

    DMC Scott Hudson

    So who knows something??

    Ivoclar going to exocad? :) Or not? :(

    Both are based in Germany. (Well Liechtenstein is basically Germany to me?)

    Maybe they agree to work together having a few beers?
    :beerThanks!:beer
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  15. 2thm8kr

    2thm8kr ɹotɐɹʇsıuıɯqA Staff Member

    I think Toothman19 may be on to something??
     
  16. DMC

    DMC Scott Hudson

    Bad for them i think if true.
     

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