Roland 51D error

Discussion in 'CNC Machines' started by sidesh0wb0b, Feb 13, 2018.

  1. sidesh0wb0b

    sidesh0wb0b Active Member

    preface.....just replaced my (leaking) oil-free 30gal compressor with a new oiled 30gal compressor. no change in Amp or Voltage for them and they are NOT on the same circuit as the mill. the mill has a dedicated breaker for it, no other load on that line.

    as of installing the new comp....when the mill starts a job and ends up forcing the compressor to kick on, it shoots an error to the mill and stops the job. real pain in the backside. solution for now....shut off the air while small mill jobs are completed. otherwise each time the comp turns on it forces us to start the job over.
    additionally, if i pause a mill job and turn on the compressor it does not error while in standby. but as soon as i resume the job, it errors out.
     
  2. sidesh0wb0b

    sidesh0wb0b Active Member

  3. cadfan

    cadfan Moderator Staff Member

    Do you load complete calculated cam job or does it transfer while calculating ?? load straight or via net switch
     
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  4. DMC

    DMC Scott Hudson

    Thats is weird and should not be happening. Picky machine
     
  5. harrydiculous

    harrydiculous Administrator Staff Member

    Corrupt file? Not enough RAM?Slow CPU? Overheating CPU?
    Just some guesses.
    I agree very weird.
     
  6. sidesh0wb0b

    sidesh0wb0b Active Member

    completed jobs only.
     
  7. sidesh0wb0b

    sidesh0wb0b Active Member

    this is a brand new issue. been fine for 2 years....
     
  8. sidesh0wb0b

    sidesh0wb0b Active Member

    its every file. computer is fine too, no issues until we installed the new compressor and its directly tied to the compressor.
    for small mill jobs it never errors out if the comp doesnt kick on....which doesnt make sense because its not only NOT on the same circuit, but its not even on the same electrical panel!
     
  9. cadfan

    cadfan Moderator Staff Member

    do you have the option to pick up electricity from a neighbor for a test just the compressor ?? maybe to much starting current and some sensetive things in the mill get weired ?? or check with voltmeter if it goes down ??
     
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  10. sidesh0wb0b

    sidesh0wb0b Active Member

    again, this isnt even on the same breaker panel. theres no possible way its getting a jolt. unless electricity suddenly doesnt work like it has lol
     
  11. cadfan

    cadfan Moderator Staff Member

    better try mystic things that have been done in a few minutes , all the shit has little eproms controller whatever inside and some are sensitive but its yours.
     
  12. Erykd1

    Erykd1 New Member

    I would check the USB cable going from the PC to the mill, ensure it is not anywhere near any power cables (crossing it or running parallel), maybe even try changing it out. I've heard AC near the USB cable can cause strange issues.

    Hopefully your PC is already plugged into a surge protector, maybe trying a power conditioner would help. Good luck!


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  13. harrydiculous

    harrydiculous Administrator Staff Member

    If it’s a 51D just try milling something small with no compressor at all. Unplug it from the system.
    That rules out the compressor if it fails again.


    Then drop a finished job ( one done before all this) directly into v panel then that will check to see if it’s a CAM software issue or an electrical fault possibly.


    If it does fail one would assume some sort of electrical fault of the machine because it did work before .
     
  14. Elab

    Elab Active Member

    What Harry says makes sense. Also, running amps and starting amps are two different things. The new compressor may be pulling more starting amps than the old one, resulting in a voltage fluctuation in the system that's messing with the mill. Even though they are not on the same breaker the power comes through the same breaker box. Do the lights dim when the compressor starts?
     
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  15. DMC

    DMC Scott Hudson

    I agree. Adding a voltage stabilizer maybe help?

    Or battery backup to smooth the voltage drop.
     
  16. harrydiculous

    harrydiculous Administrator Staff Member

    Also on a 51D there is a control cable that allows you to control a vac unit and/or a compressor. Check this as well. Remove it if connected while doing a small test job.

    Deleting things from the system one by one will eliminate what it is or is not hopefully.
     
  17. Erykd1

    Erykd1 New Member

    Sideshow, any updates? Lots of good ideas, I'm curious if you got this figured out


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